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Wise Response NewZealand Seminar on Biophysical Limits To Growth

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This was an excellent seminar organised by Wise Response New Zealand, a coalition of academics, engineers, lawyers, artists, sportspeople etc who are calling on New Zealand’s Parliament to comprehensively assess imminent risks to New Zealand and to draw up plans to deal with them. The seminar webpage is http://wiseresponse.org.nz/2021/08/31/seminar-are-there-biophysical-limits-to-growth/ The speakers were (in order): Associate Professor Simon Michaux (Geology) Professor Steve Keen (Economics) Professor Tim Jackson (Economics) Professor Susan Krumdieck (Mechanical Engineering) I highly recommend watching all 4 talks: they were all worthwhile, and hang together very well. There were a few Zoom glitches, but they were ultimately overcome. My talk was supposed to start at the 23 minute

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This was an excellent seminar organised by Wise Response New Zealand, a coalition of academics, engineers, lawyers, artists, sportspeople etc who are calling on New Zealand’s Parliament to comprehensively assess imminent risks to New Zealand and to draw up plans to deal with them.



The seminar webpage is http://wiseresponse.org.nz/2021/08/31/seminar-are-there-biophysical-limits-to-growth/



The speakers were (in order):



Associate Professor Simon Michaux (Geology)

Professor Steve Keen (Economics)

Professor Tim Jackson (Economics)

Professor Susan Krumdieck (Mechanical Engineering)



I highly recommend watching all 4 talks: they were all worthwhile, and hang together very well.



There were a few Zoom glitches, but they were ultimately overcome. My talk was supposed to start at the 23 minute mark, but it took till 24 minutes in before Zoom stopped crashing.
Steve Keen
Steve Keen (born 28 March 1953) is an Australian-born, British-based economist and author. He considers himself a post-Keynesian, criticising neoclassical economics as inconsistent, unscientific and empirically unsupported. The major influences on Keen's thinking about economics include John Maynard Keynes, Karl Marx, Hyman Minsky, Piero Sraffa, Augusto Graziani, Joseph Alois Schumpeter, Thorstein Veblen, and François Quesnay.

14 comments

  1. That was a really interesting talk, thanks Steve. Good luck in your political career!

  2. Nuclear EROI is well above 40… why is the first speaker acting like it’s below 10?? Is this guy serious?

    • NO way Simon is dumb, but he may be acting off old data on that issue–historical EROI given regulatory costs etc. may well be that high. I'll check with him on it.

    • @ProfSteveKeen rude comment lol on my part sorry. I’ve just never seen EROI so low for nuclear

  3. Dr. Keen, why do you think we need to ration energy when nuclear power is more than capable of providing all the energy we need, totally carbon free. Uranium is essentially limitless due to Ocean water mining. France fully decarbonized using nuclear in the 60s! Only took them a decade. They have the cheapest electricity in Europe and the lowest carbon footprint. Why can’t the world do this?

    • Because it would take too long to build the required stations, for one. And because energy overuse is only one symptom of our impact on the planet. We have to scale it back massively else it'll be species collapse that kills us. We can't nuclear power our way out of that.

    • @ProfSteveKeen energy overuse is only a problem if the energy is carbon intensive or if it infringes on the ecosystems. Nuclear is cleaner than solar and requires the least amount of land. What makes you think we can’t build the power plants? Again, France fully decarbonized their grid in less than a decade. That totally disproves the idea that we can’t decarbonize in time. in fact, a government planned Nuclear buildout is the ONLY thing that has ever worked.

    • @ukulayme2 Energy overuse is far from the only problem of climate change–but in fact it powers the other problems. So of course it infringes on the ecosystems. And one country can do that in time; whether every country could? Do we have the engineers needed, etc? Sorry but my sceptical side makes me feel that we don't. So you can at least double the construction time required.

  4. I Bless this! A thorough analysis of the industrial and metallurgical needs to fix the planet! However, Lithium ion is old tech, glass solid state batteries look to be far more efficient.

  5. Australia is in great need of this conversation.

  6. Simon Michaux seems very on to it. Just subscribed to his youtube channel

  7. Wow,
    the numbers that Simon Michaux is showing are frightening. That puts your "war effort" comments regarding the scale of the project to address this in a better perspective for me. Huge! Great panel.

  8. Do you see any investment opportunities on the horizon in the stock market? 🙂

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